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The Honda CA95 / Benly 150 Restoration The little brother to the CA160 in our family of Hondas

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Unread 09-16-2012, 05:32 AM
grubsie grubsie is offline
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I have read posts on here about serial numbers, but I am wondering about another angle for my '63 Benly.
I have the original title with a Vehicle ID# CA95E 38157. Where the heck did this number come from? Never heard of this kind of number. I know that the titled owner and bike is correct because the the original owner who since passed away his titled name and address written on the inside of the side covers and 2 places inside the air filter/ starter solenoid area.
The engine number is CA95E-3103575 and the frame number is CA95-3103556.
I don't need a title in my state so registration shouldn't be a problem. My problem is this. There is no number on this bike or parts anywhere that has the strange title ID# so I could use the frame number and have my local police verify it on the required form. However, just spraying primer over that number on the frame makes the numbers disappear as most of you know from re-painting. Should I neatly mask the numbers while painting the frame, then spray that small area with clear so the frame numbers are visible for future buyers? Once I get it registered, I can get a new title no problem. Just concerned about preserving the frame ID numbers. Maybe having them re-ingraved/ stamped deeper in front of the proper authorities?

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Unread 09-16-2012, 05:58 AM
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I know in Texas, title registration and frame number need to be the same. Not so with the engine number....although mine are like yours, only a few digits apart; pretty much indicating the frame and engine were originally shipped together; which to me is important for originality. But your titled number should match the frame number.......unless the title is for another cycle, but still an incomplete number. Put a piece of painters tape over the frame vin number when repainting.
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Unread 09-16-2012, 07:47 AM
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Tape over the frame number before sandblasting or painting. You can clearcoat the number or put an rust preventative over it if you like.

I have titled these bikes in 3 states (MI MN KY and registered in 1 GA. All but Minnesota needed the frame number. Minnesota registers the engine number and frame number although they settled for the engine number on my CA160

Don't restamp or re-engrave the frame numbers as that looks like tampering.

Also make sure the title folks know that your frame number is NOT a VIN number.

The Georgia folks did not know this and it did cause an issue when a clerk filled in the blanks with X's to complete the VIN# profile. I had to get with the state to remove the "X's" to match the number that matches the insurance policy.
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