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will1972rupp1
09-22-2011, 08:28 PM
hi i am new here i just picked up this 1971 cl70 with no motor, as is for $150.00 i never seen one before in till this one, looked like a old bob er,

well i came across a 1970 cl70 parts bike its looks the same, so i bought it & a parts motor out of a 1972 cl70, well i tore down both cl motor's it took two of them too make a good bottom end,

here's a picture of the 1971 i am fixing up,

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/100.jpg

will1972rupp1
09-22-2011, 08:58 PM
hi it would be great if some one has a link to wiring?? so i can get it all wired up properly, i have the blinkers & the motor is almost ready to be installed, i have to do the top end & the carb next,

1971 cl70 scrambler

will1972rupp1
09-22-2011, 09:41 PM
i also need some parts for this cl70 , i could use a good flywheel cover

i have a parts bike 1970 so i could do some trading, ill post some pictures when i can.. thanks will

montanaman
09-23-2011, 04:26 AM
I have a wiring diagram in the manual I can scan for you. I used it for my 72', if that will help.

Dioxin01
09-23-2011, 10:58 AM
Hey you wouldn't happen to have a spare exhaust on your parts bike that I could buy from you, would you?

will1972rupp1
09-23-2011, 02:10 PM
hi no motor, no seat, no exhaust, no foot pegs, no brake levers, no blinkers, it looks worse then my bike, a bit rusty but same color, i am going too part it out after i am done with my build. i am not sure what i may need off of it. but you all can ask away..

i also need some parts for this cl70 , i could use a good flywheel cover

will1972rupp1
09-24-2011, 12:32 AM
please pm me, no emails , well here is a picture of my 1970 cl70 parts bike i am going to part it out after i get done with my 1971 cl70 build..

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/cl70001.jpg

montanaman
09-24-2011, 11:04 AM
I may have a spare exhaust. Do you need the muffler, and the assmbly that attaches to the head?

Dioxin01
09-24-2011, 05:07 PM
Will has been trying to contact someone for me but if that doesn't work then sure! I need the whole thing. I have the guards though.

Dioxin01
09-24-2011, 05:10 PM
As for a key switch how about this?:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Honda-CL70-CB-Ignition-Starter-Stop-Switch-2-Keys-/220860862626?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item336c5550a2#ht_1042wt_895

Looks a lot like mine. Check it out first to make sure it fits though.

Smithers
09-26-2011, 07:10 AM
Hey glad to see you join Will. I gotta read all your posts when I get time later on today. Have you ever ridden one of these before? A friend of mine has been running a Lifan engine in his little race bike for a while now and beats the heck out of it. If I had a chassis that needed an engine I would try one of those Chinese engines. I've been hearing good things about them. But there's nothing wrong with keeping it all Honda.

I just think about the long run and your time getting a working 70 engine plus the cost of all the parts and some machine work will easily add up to a brand new Lifan engine that has more power. Just something to think about. But sounds like you have most of the parts already so on with the show!

will1972rupp1
09-26-2011, 04:47 PM
i never got to ride a cl70 before, i never even seen one in till i found this cl70 it had no motor when i first seen it, then the guy told me it came with a 70cc 4 speed manual clutch motor, so i had to have it,

but i built & put 4 speed 110cc auto clutch motor on a 1974 xl70, the motor i used started out as a Chinese 50cc 4 speed so i split & cleaned the cases & put a 110 crank & top end on it, head & cam & larger carb, the only money i have in it is the gaskets, it wheelies on its own with an auto clutch, just put in first & hit the gas & hold on, & hit second & it gets a little wheel also, fun bike..

i am looking for a good used stock exhaust for this xl70 or sl70 will work..

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/DSCF0187.jpg

Smithers
09-26-2011, 06:17 PM
Ah I see! Well you know all about those engines then. That would be awesome to have in the CL70 since it is street legal. THat would be the perfect amount of grunt for that bike on the street while keeping it looking like a Honda.

will1972rupp1
09-27-2011, 09:17 PM
hi i just picked this 1972 cl70 up, i am not sure if i am going to fix it yet..

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/finepixviewers012.jpg

montanaman
09-28-2011, 05:24 PM
I think mine looked about the same, maybe worse. I would give it a shot. : ) It dosn't look all that bad, plus there is allot of good parts. How is the engine looking? I see that thing under where the seat goes, never new about that. Guess I need to buy another part. Damn!

will1972rupp1
09-28-2011, 05:46 PM
i also picked up this rusty 1967 Bonanza Bc1300 mini bike here is a picture of Hoss from Bonanza ridding the same one back in 1967

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/mb236b.jpg

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/bonanza4L-605x450.jpg

montanaman
09-29-2011, 03:29 AM
Very nice! is that the same one that is in the picture with the CL70? it looks great!

montanaman
09-29-2011, 03:39 AM
Do you know were you can find these parts? like the air cleaner itself, and the air cleaner cover #5? I cant seem to find these anywere.

Smithers
09-30-2011, 02:26 PM
I would just make one.

Smithers
09-30-2011, 02:29 PM
I got dibs on a CL70 kickstand from one of those parts bikes! :D

I removed mine when I was a kid for performance reasons. I would ride the countryside and up and around mountains. The kick stand would drag on the sides when I would scrape my knee too. So it had to go. I put it somewhere but I haven't been able to find it in years so I give up looking.

will1972rupp1
09-30-2011, 08:55 PM
hi i sent you a pm about the kickstand.. remember ill have too ship it so make me an offer shipped, thanks will

will1972rupp1
10-25-2011, 11:09 AM
well i just got all my bits back from being glass beaded last night for my head, it takes a long time when you don't have too pay too get work done.. (thanks too my buddy Dave)..

ill be putting the head on tonight, i read you have too have a battery too get spark, i this true????

montanaman
10-25-2011, 04:08 PM
Yes Sir, no battery, no spark. How is the coil and spark plug wire looking?

will1972rupp1
10-25-2011, 09:09 PM
well the spark plug wire looks good, i have too rebuild the carb & install the motor, & i guess have too buy a battery, so i can get it running.. thanks will

montanaman
10-26-2011, 04:21 AM
Hey Will, those batteries are pretty cheap. I think I got mine for $15-$20, but since there is know magneto, it needs to keep a good charge. You can put a magneto on it, but I have been told it work just fine the way it is if keeps a good charge.

will1972rupp1
10-26-2011, 12:06 PM
magneto? my stater plate has both the coils on it..

Smithers
10-26-2011, 11:17 PM
Just go buy a lantern battery from WalMart or somewhere and go fire that thing up! :D Ok I'm just impatient.... probably not a good idea.

http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/public/AxP22lOb4ua1qVR2aRmp3mCqG0WTkEbOQZEQkiV3se-Vk552Jywh1NyffAREdk2ph327NVsOjPnxe92MgNaYCguEP3o_i 002ivSZ0nu7HdDE5Uqi6-Pyzbm93Ot8bqY2ges5VmClLSmF6wqsv3F6IecEYts

will1972rupp1
11-01-2011, 03:57 PM
i took these wheels off this ct110 & took all the spokes out & the black hubs,
then i took the wheels off my parts bike & took all the spokes out, too get the hubs out , then i polished the hubs & used the ct110 spokes & chrome rings & re spoke'd them, i have too buy new tires, got my motor done, just have too bolt it in & buy a new battery, its going too have too wait, i am low on cash..

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/cl70014.jpg

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/cl70001.jpg

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/ebay008.jpg

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/ebay009.jpg

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/ebay010.jpg

Smithers
11-01-2011, 05:29 PM
Good thinking! Looks great.

montanaman
11-02-2011, 04:11 AM
Good work Will, looks great. I did the same to mine, my hands are still cramping up from all the polishing.

will1972rupp1
11-11-2011, 11:07 AM
well i finally got the motor in my bike, i didn't even paint it, i still have more work too do to it, i need a battery & flywheel cover & air filter, but its going to have to wait, money is tight this time off year..

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/cl70005.jpg

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/cl70006.jpg

Smithers
11-12-2011, 12:02 AM
I hear ya. Looks great. You could just paint the cover that looks rusty and ride the thing and enjoy it. :D

montanaman
11-12-2011, 04:18 AM
Looks good Will. The frame dosnt need paint anyway. I agree, just put some paint on the cover and be done.

will1972rupp1
11-16-2011, 01:26 PM
Hay Scott here is some pictures of the stock air filter assembly, & how it goes together, the metal edge of the filter goes in where the clamp is ..

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/cl70airfilterassembly003.jpg

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/cl70airfilterassembly002.jpg

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/cl70airfilterassembly001.jpg

montanaman
11-17-2011, 05:56 AM
Hey Will, thanks for the pics. I think i am going to try and rig up an air filter, try to find on close to that size (less expensive) for the mean time, i rigged up this to use.

kartgreen
11-18-2011, 05:55 AM
You don't have to buy another filter , strip the pleated paper filter from the metal base and replace it with UNI foam filter material . You can RTV the foam to the metal base , lightly oil it ( K&N oil) and reinstall .

will1972rupp1
11-19-2011, 09:45 PM
thanks will

will1972rupp1
11-22-2011, 08:43 PM
i just picked up a good spare motor & coil & carb & a few other little parts for $40.00 .. the best part was getting a good flywheel cover that i needed, the motor turns over just a quick look & so far it needs a kick start shaft, i think it will be worth rebuilding this for a spare..

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/will1972rupp1/1321107005-217JPG_m.jpg

montanaman
11-23-2011, 06:33 PM
You got a good deal there. I know you neede the flyweel cover, and now you have a spare. Good find!

Smithers
11-23-2011, 07:33 PM
Wow that's great! Very valuable to a CL70 owner. Very nice.

will1972rupp1
11-24-2011, 04:57 PM
the man i bought it from was a super nice guy & i told him how bad i needed that flywheel cover, he said he would sell me the hole motor for $35.00 but i said ill give you $40.00 if you could meet me part of the way, he said yes so it was a done deal, well i meet him & got to talking about the cl70 he had & how he put a 125cc motor on it, so i told him about this form & all you great guys helping out one another, so when i got home i sent him a link to this form, i hope he joins & posts up some pictures of his cl70.. this is the best form i have found with a spot just for the cl70 thanks again Nick for the motor & parts.. will

will1972rupp1
11-27-2011, 04:23 PM
i sold some used parts & was able to get a new battery, but i still have too get it filled with acid, my next part too get it the air filter.. its coming together slow here..

Ascot500
12-03-2011, 07:17 PM
Hey all, I am the guy with the other NC CL70.
It was great to meet Will and talk bikes, etc.

My CL had belonged to a co-worker, and he had not done much with it, so we made a swap. My intention was to rebuild, not restore, with the goal being a ride suitable for everyday commuting (~6 miles). I stripped the frame down totally except the forks, then washed out the accumulated grime of 40 years. The new engine is a 125cc LIFAN. I replaced the controls and wired it enough to have a headlight and tail light. It is now ride-able and even started on the first kick the last time. I have a complete harness for those CT70 clones. It is not plug and play with the controls so it will take some time to get that sorted out.

Overall I am pretty happy with the result.

Cheers

Ascot500
12-03-2011, 07:22 PM
OH, here's a photo.
The dent in the tank looks worse in the photo than it does in the flesh.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll139/Ascot500_album/100_0760.jpg

will1972rupp1
12-04-2011, 10:36 AM
hi Nick its good too see you joined, the bike looks great, thanks again will

Smithers
12-04-2011, 08:05 PM
Very nice bike Nick. Those 125cc Lifans seem like the way to go. I wonder how much more power the seat of the pants dyno registers with that larger engine. Looks like fun.